Package Reorganisations

From: Anthony Towns (aj@azure.humbug.org.au)
Date: Sat Feb 03 2001 - 02:04:43 CET

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    Hi guys,

    For woody, there've been a few package reorganisations, probably most
    notably the whole XFree86 v4 update.

    A lot of these updates seem to be breaking forwards compatibility in the
    sense that they require lots of packages to be rebuilt on some or all
    architectures. For example the X update means dependencies on xlib6g and
    xpm4g have to be changed to dependencies on xlibs: for xlib6g there's a
    dummy package to handle this, for xpm4g recompiles have to be done [0].

    Similarly, the tetex rearrangement wrt tetex-lib and tetex-dev causes
    some problems, even though libkpathsea3 provides tetex-dev. In particular,
    packages like libkpathsea-perl which specify a versioned dependency on
    tetex-lib become broken and need to be rebuilt.

    What this generally ends up meaning is that the testing update scripts get
    into a bit of a catch-22 situation. Take, for example, the situation with
    cjk-latex: the version in unstable depends on libkpathsea3 so it can't be
    installed into testing until tetex is; but the version in testing depends
    on tetex-lib (>= 1.0.6-2), so it'll become broken if the new tetex is
    installed (since provides don't satisfy version dependencies) [1].

    So, what's the point of this?

    Well, first: please try to avoid it wherever possible. Making a dependency
    unsatisfiable is a Bad Thing, and not something to be done if you don't have
    a *very* good reason for it.

    Second: if you _must_ do it, add a Provides: clause to your new
    packages. If there are any versioned dependencies on packages you're
    getting rid of, _seriously_ consider making a dummy package like the
    xlib6g package from X 4.

    Third: when you do it, please make sure the autobuilders and packages
    know about it, so that (a) they don't keep building packages with the
    old dependencies, and (b) they can reupload any existing packages with
    correct dependencies.

    Fourth: if, after you've made sure that _all_ packages in unstable,
    in _all_ architectures have been rebuilt with the new dependencies,
    you find that your package isn't going into testing, mail me so I can
    special case the update in the scripts.

    For reference, presumably mainly due to issues like this, the uninstallable
    packages count on various architectures looks like:

               potato woody sid

        i386 8 46 138
        alpha 68 77 166
        sparc 56 75 218
        powerpc 77 82 333
        m68k 91 125 334
        arm 142 268 1858

    Note that all these numbers should be 0.

    Cheers,
    aj

    [0] On each architecture, the packages that depend on xpm4g seem to be:

            alpha:
               xcopilot wmx10

            arm:
               freeciv-xaw3d pilrc wmx10 xmbdfed xwave
               gsumi pixmap xacc xonix
               knews ppxp-x11 xbill xpat2
               mctools-lite propsel xboing xsoldier
               nighthawk wmmand xitalk xtron

            i386:
               netscape4 xcopilot

            m68k:
               vice freeamp isdnbutton propsel libforms0.89
               xmysqladmin gsumi knews wmx10

            powerpc:
               vice twcw xtron
               coolicon wmx10 communicator-smotif-46
               fsviewer wsoundprefs libforms0.88
               pixmap xacc libforms0.89
               ppxp-x11 xmgr xmame-x

            sparc:
               gsumi pixmap xacc libforms0.88 xtrojka
               knews wmx10 xmgr libforms0.89

        There may be more broken dependencies due to the X update too.

    [1] The testing scripts can, in theory, handle this automatically. In
        practice, it takes way too long to do, especially when there are lots
        of large or simultaneous reorganisations happening, or when some of
        the reorganisations aren't complete.

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    Anthony Towns <aj@humbug.org.au> <http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/>
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